Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:37 AM
To the mod, I need to get these two missing post through or my whole argument would be in vain and time wasted my effort if the other side can't get the whole picture, please!
@hieu
---quote{{{You talked so funnily.
The status 1973 of Vietnam looked like South Korean and DPR (Democratic People of Republic Korean) today. In that time, both governments of Vietnam are admitted by international society and United Nation (UN). 2 nations existed together : North Vietnam and South Vietnam. Paracel couldn't belong to both nations ! In 1973, Republic of Vietnam owned Paracel and Democratic Republic of Vietnam didn't have any right to decide about Paracel Islands. UN decided that. 1975 my nation reunited, Paracel owning right must be transfered from Republic of Vietnam to Socialist Republic of Vietnam (originated by Democratic Republic of Vietnam)
(Unfortunately, Paracel has been ocupied illegally by PLA in 1974)}}}
Who would take the U.N. order seriously, when it was obliviously it was one sided and led the the USA especially during the Cold War period. That changed when China got a permanent seat in the U.N. that balanced thing out so it don't get one-sided where they can't invade other smaller countries so easily.
Remember the U.N. did not pass the resolution to attack Iraq? Guess what, the USA invaded Iraq anyway... so much for U.N. justice and order talk! Also, your more funny if you actually take U.N. decision seriously back at the time, cause it was highly politically motivated by USA to favor SV over NV. The USA & U.N. even supported a SV dictator in office. This show they would do anything as long as it supports their common interest.
Back when China civil war, RoC was granted U.N. seat, but later kicked out in favor of PRoC. It only show you the U.N. is yet another hypocrisy. Interests come first.
missing post 3:
@Viet Nguyen,
---quote{{{An as Yumura mentioned, the letter by PVD has no legal effect and so is no more than a piece of rubbish (I wonder why China keeps it for so long and always uses it as their shield every time). It is similar to, for example, some one in Taiwan government acknowledges that Hainan and Macau belong to Vietnam. That simply has no legal effect because Taiwan does not own these islands.}}}
I'll just play along and use your example. And yes, Taiwan could say that as their government are the KMT the exile government of RoC and still claim the whole of China, but whether they can enforce the claim is another matter. Same with all others, claim all you want, whether you can enforce it one way or another is what matter instead of blank talks.
----quote{{{Finally, like Yumura, I challenge Chinese government to bring the issue (including the islands and Eastern sea) to an international court for a fair and peaceful resolution. I just do not understand why China always refuses it.}}}
Cause you can't understand the hypocrisy of the U.N. decision especially when it's biased towards USA favor when dealing with China territories. For example, before WWII diaoyu island was a part of Taiwan province, but after WWII Japan surrender, it gave the island to Japan control. China got robbed over that decision.
Another example, Taiwan was under China during the China dynasty but invaded by Japan, after WWII Taiwan should return back to China, but instead, U.N. put Taiwan under the protection of the U.N. (since the U.N. under the USA, its actually under USA protection till this day). So, when dealing with China territories, who would take the U.N. decision seriously?
And the UNCLOS was also setup by you know who.
{{{UNCLOS is also the reason why the Spratlys became such a hot spot after it came into force. It is important to note that PRC has ratified UNCLOS, but with a few conditions where the Spratlys dispute is not subjected to UNCLOS, hence not compromising their claim legally.}}}